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As you all should be aware is due for a referendum in 2014 to debate and vote for Scottish independence. Regardless of individual peoples thoughts on this as it is NOT important to this thread I would like to inform all the readers of this to be on guard.
It is no secret that Alex Salmond is a Satanist who was pushing for Scotland to join the globalists in the E.U. My point now is that even now as Salmond steps down the good people on both sides of the border should be writing letters to the M.P.s and demanding written conformation regarding a constitution and/or bill of rights including demanding that Scotland if it becomes independent to leave the E.U. hoax and become a self sustaining and truly independent state. Why some of you may be asking? Simple Alex Samlond was hoping Scotland would enter into the E.U. therefore forcing England to give up even more rights and freedom as the E.U. pincer attack unfolds putting more pressure on England to give up the pound. I don't want to see what is happening in America come here due to civil unrest on both sides of the border. I would also like to thank you all for reading this and if you agree with what I am saying please spread the word. |
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| Have you ever wondered which hurts the most: saying something and wishing you had not, or saying nothing, and wishing you had? I am the Cobra Commander muah muah muah | Feb 8 2012 at 17:01:01 GMT | |||
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As far as I can see the United Kingdom is collapsing, and the EU has in mind to do to every European country, what the allies did to Germany after WWII, but in a more subtle way. It's more like we are being dissected a piece at a time rather than carved up with a chainsaw like the wars of last century.
I wonder what will really happen if England Wales and Scotland do all become independent of each other, yet all 3 remain subservient to Europe. Of course the smaller the states the easier they are to fleece, but the easier it is for them to simply secede from the union. |
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| Webmaster of AhoyNoob | Feb 8 2012 at 17:24:06 GMT | |||
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Firstly he cannot be a Satanist due to the fact hes doing it as you say "for Scotland to join the globalists in the E.U".... so he is not worshipping himself.. rather "his masters"
But honestly.. I don't think its like that at all. His policy is to stay with the pound. And I truely believe Salmond isn't some man under a massive conspiracy to destroy England... rather hes watched dieheart too many times. Yes leaving the UK is a bad idea.... but I honestly don't think its linked to a conspiracy. And its all easy to make claims that hes working with globalists without in fact providing proof. I mean I could make up a claim right now.... I know for a fact that they put weed in water.... I KNOW IT... all them government people have been paid off by globalists... See... its easy to say that without proof... |
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| Connor De Revron | Feb 8 2012 at 18:50:25 GMT | |||
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Maybe he's being manipulated into thinking Scotland will be independant? Tbh, if they do go it alone, once they start getting funding from the EU coffers they have had it anyway, they'll be in debt and the souls of the scottish people will be extracted one way or another to pay the imf back. Whatever happens, the scots are being mislead big time, i personally reckon salmond is in on it. | |||
| Feb 8 2012 at 19:43:54 GMT | ||||
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The New Statesman rolling blog Follow: The Staggers RSS | The Staggers Twitter Would Scotland be forced to join the euro? Posted by George Eaton - 13 January 2012 11:53 Osborne uses the most devastating weapon in the No campaign's arsenal. Scottish First Minister Alex Salmond has pledged to hold a referendum on the euro. Scottish First Minister Alex Salmond has pledged to hold a referendum on the euro. Photograph: Getty Images. The logic of George Osborne leading the charge against Alex Salmond is slowly revealing itself. The government's trump card is that an independent Scotland could be forced to join the euro, and the Chancellor is the man to play it. He told ITV News last night: "Alex Salmond has said he'd want Scotland to join the euro and you have to ask yourself is that the currency you want to be joining at the moment." In fact, Salmond's stance on the euro is considerably more nuanced than Osborne suggests. True, in 2009, the First Minister quipped that sterling was "sinking like a stone" and argued that euro membership was becoming increasingly attractive ("the parlous state of the UK economy has caused many people in the business community and elsewhere to view membership favourably"). But that, to put it mildly, is no longer the case and, consequently, Salmond has changed tact. Like Gordon Brown circa 2003, he now states that Scotland will retain the pound until it is in the country's "economic interests" to join the euro. But last night Osborne refused to guarantee that Scotland could keep sterling. In truth, this was a bit of mischievous politicking by the Chancellor (no one believes that the UK would stop Scotland using the pound) but the Treasury has warned that it could ban Scotland from printing Scottish bank notes (just as the eurozone requires all members to use identical bank notes) and ensure that it has no say over valuation decisions, a situation comparable to Kosovo's membership of the euro. The SNP has since come out fighting, declaring that "the more a Tory chancellor tries to lay down the law to Scotland, the stronger support for independence will become" but this is uncomfortable territory for the party. A spokesman for John Swinney, the Scottish finance secretary, insisted that the currency situation was "crystal clear" but in reality it is several shades of grey. EU law currently requires all new member states to join the euro area once the necessary conditions are fulfilled. As a briefing note by the House of Commons library states: EU Member States, with the exception of Denmark and the UK, are expected to join the single currency if and when they meet the criteria. Five of the twelve states joining the EU since 2004 have gone on to join the euro. Whether Scotland joined the euro would have implications for its post-independence monetary policy, and the size of its liability for loans provided to countries facing sovereign debt problems. Whether or not Scotland kept the UK's derogation from the euro would be dependent on the will of other EU member states. There is no precedent for a devolved part of an EU country becoming independent. For once, we really would be in uncharted territory. Thus, there is sufficient legal uncertainty for Osborne to speculate that Scotland could be forced to join the euro. And that is the most devastating weapon in the No campaign's arsenal. Update: I should have added that Sweden, of course, has no official opt-out from the euro but has not joined the single currency after voting no in the 2003 referendum. The country is not party to the ERM II Central Bank Agreement (part of the criteria for euro membership) giving it a de facto opt-out. Should this precedent apply to an independent Scotland, it would similarly not be forced to join. But this is hardly the cast-iron guarantee that many Scottish voters will want. |
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| Have you ever wondered which hurts the most: saying something and wishing you had not, or saying nothing, and wishing you had? I am the Cobra Commander muah muah muah | Feb 9 2012 at 00:45:30 GMT | |||
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I can see a larger picture to it as well, it the UK breaks up and the EU divides the island up into regions totally destroying the 3-country system of England Wales and Scotland. Then how can William become the King of England and Harry the Prince of Wales, if these countries no longer exist? I can imagine that if they wanted to carry on with the tradition of Monarchism they would have to move to another one of the common wealth states which would accept them, perhaps Canada. Then, what's stopping Canada from getting swallowed by America using the same method? If that happened they would have to move to somewhere else, maybe Australia or New Zealand... before too many more generations have passed we will not only have lost the constitution and our traditions but we will have lost the entire common wealth and the common law as well subjecting everyone to corporate facism under the rule of the strongest corporation.
The corporations will eventually merge with each other meaning that at the end of the process there will be a single unelected CEO of Earth Inc, who is not bound by the rule of law because there won't be any law any more, only contracts and enforcement thugs. Imagine Tesco security guards being able to throw people into Tesco run dungeons and exploit them for profit, whilst competing with Sainsbury's who are doing the exact same thing... far fetched? It's not so different from what governments are and do right now, except they at least pay some lip service to morality and the rule of law. |
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| Webmaster of AhoyNoob | Feb 9 2012 at 13:03:08 GMT | |||
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